Aggregators in the Public Markets (Part 1): TransDigm Group.



Preface

I’ve recently taken an interest in a certain business model: publicly traded aggregators. These are companies (that in my opinion) take a private equity approach to the public markets. Many of these companies are focused on the acquisition and continued development of separate business units or “pods” with a focus on efficiency and cash flow generation. Examples of such businesses include TransDigm Group (NYSE: TDG) and Constellation Software (TSE: CSU).

I recently attended a fireside chat with Nick Howley, founder of TransDigm. The following are the notes I took, this page will be updated as I continue to learn more about the strategies behind these types of businesses.


Lesson from the session… extreme focus on people, culture, and results -and- being positioned as “mission-critical” in the value chain (critical parts sold at high margins) is an excellent, compounding formula.

  • What is TransDigm
    • TransDigm is a supplier and designer of proprietary aircraft parts to the aftermarket
    • If you had invested in 1993, you would have achieved an annual IRR of 35% over the past 25 years
    • One of the most successful industrial/manufacturing businesses that has compounded over many years
    • Founded by Nick Howley + Douglas Peacock + PE Firm (Kelso->Odyssey->Warburg->IPO)
  • Nick Howley's Background
    • Started in "on the ground" businesses, family had a machine shop
      • Early one learned the reality of cash flow and productivity in a tangible way
      • Real blocking and tackling, learned as much there as he did in formal education
      • The machine shop is a tough business, not a good business
      • Engineering background
  • Value Creation Strategy
    • Follow a simple, straightforward strategy
      • Essentially, we are in the business of owning and operating proprietary (strong moat) aircraft parts (essential) businesses that cater to the aftermarket (pricing power + better margins)
    • Have a compensation system aligned with shareholders
      • Underpay managers and over-equitize them
    • Decentralized Operations
      • Have ~65 business units
      • Essentially operate like a PE portfolio where each unit is a PortCo and TransDigm is the HoldCo
    • Follow a disciplined acquisition strategy
      • Only buy proprietary aircraft businesses with significant aftermarket
      • Use a lot more leverage than typical public companies, so need high cash flow/moat/etc.
    • Goal is to match or exceed the returns of the private market in a publicly traded HoldCo
  • Three P's: Price, Profitability/Productivity, and Profitable New Business
    • Price Goal = Price > Inflation
    • Profitability/Productivity = Cost Out + Increase Productivity
    • Profitable New Business = Organic / Acquisitions
      • This approach works for the industrial/manufacturing/niche engineering businesses (Nick can't talk to software businesses or industries where there are high rates of change)
      • Use when have 100 employees and still using with 100k employees
      • We focus everything on these three things
        • They can be opposed to each other, i.e. the price too high, can sell or generate new business etc.
        • Need to balance all three
  • Price
    • The goal is to never price to cost, but price to value added to customers
    • I would say in the area of pricing, most businesses don't really track / or know what their pricing trends are
      • If you can't specifically say it you probably don’t know it
    • Most acquisitions we work on… part of the analysis is what the prices and the trends are
      • If you can't move prices close to inflation, you need to focus on cost
    • How high can you get the price before you get cut?
      • Need to be in tune with the market to figure out which complaints about price increases are "normal" grumbles or if you raised prices to high
      • Close enough to hear the objections, bc no one will ever say "thanks for raising prices"
      • Need to know what is normal complaining and what is too much complaining
    • Where you are in the value chain also plays a major role in pricing power
      • If your product requires repeat buys, you should know how much the switching costs are
    • If you are unsure about where to raise prices, pick a small subset of a business and try it
      • Usually get more than you think you can, assuming you have value to the customer
      • Anyone can figure out what the factors driving switching costs and back into something reasonable
    • What is the role of the CEO in pricing?
      • Intimately involved
      • The CEO needs to grow equity value, and prices are a key part of LT equity value growth
      • When you buy a business, the CEO has to be intimately involved
      • Also, when CEO is involved there should be no surprises and no confusion
    • In industrial markets, usually grow like GDP and hard to make market changes
      • Easiest levers to pull are usually price (price) and cost (profitability), not new business (profitable new business)
  • Profitability
    • We focus on productivity and reducing costs
      • Ignore fixed and variable cost, view it all as costs that we need to reduce
      • Cost = Rev. - EBITDA
        • If you have 100mm business and 20mm EBITDA, 80mm cost base
        • 4% inflation = 3.25mm increase/year
      • Likely need to cut costs more than you want
      • Always count all the costs, if there is productivity increase and no margin increase, usually the productivity increase comes only from cutting pricing
      • Usually people only use a subset of costs, so the margins aren't growing bc there are costs that are not being accounted for intentionally
  • Profitable New Business
    • Look at everything from an investor's perspective, i.e. using a discount rate (IRR) and probabilities
      • Look at it like an investment justification
    • For acquisitions we form an investment thesis, understand the overhead (certain number of engineering hours, freebies to the company, testing costs, etc.) Then ask what is the return?
      • If put 3mm in project get 200k profit very hard to justify the acquisitions or expansion
    • Be realistic about markup and market penetration, do not overestimate yourself
      • If you get it someone else is losing it
      • Many things don’t work, i.e. even if you win you did not win
      • 3mm and a 5% chance of winning, why are you bothering to do it
      • Don’t invest in things you find cool but are unprofitable from a mathematic standpoint
  • Which of the three P's is the most impactful for shareholder value?
    • You have to focus on all of them, not just one
      • Acquisitions can be a driver of the three P's but remember that results from them are hard to measure
  • How to measure customer satisfaction as you drive on pricing and productivity?
    • On time deliveries and how much of the backlog is past the shipping date
      • Never 0
      • If the pass through backlog is less than day or two of average shipments you are doing pretty well
    • An engineered niche product that works, is high quality, and on time delivery is important if you are a small part in a big process of product 
      • Late deliveries and defects are a huge detractor
    • If you are getting new business from an existing account, how pissed off can they really be?
  • What is your M&A track record?
    • M&A: 0 loss ratio and never impaired capital, compared to 50%-70% M&A overall being value destroying
    • One of the key things is that we learn the market: aerospace
    • The main way to destroy value is if you don’t understand the market or the market position of your business
    • For M&A, TransDigm likes to own 100% of all proprietary IP, can accept some impairment i.e., less than 100% ownership
      • Everyone says their product is proprietary but most are not
    • Is there significant aftermarket? = more stable and profitable
      • How much is really aftermarket? Some people are clueless, they say 0% which can't be true or they start calling everything aftermarket which also is impossible
    • If you can't make the math work, move on
  • Case Study (Acquisition)
    • All of our products can be tied to a platform, a plane etc.
    • Once you understand the platform, you can reasonably predict revenue over the next 5-6 years
    • If EBITDA is 18mm, go through 3 layers
      • What can we do on pricing, cost takeout (usually headcount in the first couple years), new business (could be plus or minus bc of overhead and investment)
        • Helps set a EBITDA goal/target
    • We assume 50% debt and 50% equity, debt multiple is off of EBITDA 
    • Look at it as a standalone PE investment, assume exit EBITDA multiple as unchanged since entry
      • Buy at the multiple and focus on EBITDA growth
      • If equity value is not growing at 20% we don’t buy it
    • Don't buy for synergies, must stand alone
      • We never sell, bc they are almost always more profitable as part of the whole than stand alone
    • Most ppl don’t realize this, most acq. do not work, but you will never hear someone say "this failed". Why is that, bad buy? integration? culture?
      • Putting aside economic cycles, ppl bought for all kinds of reason other than value creation
      • Nobody looked into value creation deep enough
      • But to grow multiple, sell upmarket, etc.
    • We are fairly prescriptive in the beginning, make the business look like how we want it to look like, very trackable
      • Most of the time we have to change out the senior management
      • Put in our own ppl to any business that has substance
        • Cannot change culture unless you change the top
    • Take a business and put it into a unit, each product line will have an income statement and a product line manager
      • We set up the income statement and set the targets, price target, cost targets, new business targets
        • It is not perfect but brings clarity
  • Why is headcount the first thing taken out?
    • In these businesses, costs (sales-EBITDA) is usually 60% ppl related and 40% other
      • The other 40% is other stuff, always hard to tell
      • If you are buying a commodity you have to pay the price
      • Not unusual that the commodity prices have gone unnegotiated for a long time
      • Also, most do not check for other suppliers
    • Quickest way to increase profitability is reduce employment numbers
    • Usually not the direct labor, all overhead
      • Not that people aren't working, it is that people are doing things that do not matter
    • Usually you can cut 10-15% employment out of it with no problem
  • How do you identify the amount of labor that can be taken out?
    • No formula for it
      • If there are 10 ppl in accounting, we look at other similar businesses and vet over the first 30 days
      • Do not overanalyze, you will never get there
      • Consultants will be there for a year lol
  • How to think about compensation strategy as part of the philosophy?
    • We have 68 standalone business units
      • Each unit has a president and 4 direct reports
        1. Head of Sales, Finance, Ops., and Engineering
    • 7-10 business units have a group office
      • CEO, COO, CFO
    • These key value creators are in the equity plan
    • If you aren't in that group, they will pay market
    • Those in the value creation group will pay them at the 35th percentile vs the market and give them options that vest on performance
      • EBITDA growth and cash flow targets
    • We assume the stock is going to grow at 15% a year, double every 5 years
      • Highly lucrative for ppl bc the stock has gone up
      • If you can create a value, you can make way more here than an operating unit at Honeywell etc.
  • What do I do if I acquired a business with high salaries, no equity plan, and want to change this?
    • Always tricky, we don’t want to buy a business and decrease salaries
    • If you have people overpaid, lay off others rather than reduce salaries
    • This comes up less than I expect
  • On the decentralized model, are you giving options of the business unit or the TransDigm level?
    • We do it at the TransDigm level bc that is where you can sell
    • We have made a couple exceptions
    • I've gone back and forth on synthetic equity for each structure
      • Complicated as hell
      • We move people around, get too complicated
    • That being said, we have done two times, we have bought companies from private equity firms with founders that wanted to roll
      • We give them synthetic equity structure for them, buy them back in 5 years
      • EBITDA*multiple-debt=equity
  • How to deal with free rider issue?
    • Do quarterly business reviews, product line by product line
    • Look at PnL, price target, productivity target, new product target
    • Cross fertilize all the units, becomes self-checking
    • Let's say you both sell into biz. jets one biz. growing at 6% and the other is 3%, other managers get grousing
    • Problems become obvious and some ppl are just overly optimistic and get better over time
    • Peel back the businesses, the fast answer is product mix, but almost never the answer
      • Better answers are the market is not buying as much, or not buying as much and price dropped, or just have more costs than expected
  • What profile do you think are the most important in ppl?
    • Like to promote from within, different culture
    • Culture is closer to a big PE business on the public market
    • Internal promotes that understands the value creation process
    • Look for smart enough, energetic, honest
    • Most overvalue experience and undervalue smart, honest, and hardworking
    • Have a bunch of specifics, smart enough, work hard, open and honest communicator, pass the no asshole rule
    • Can train specifics but cannot train honest, energetic, and smart
    • If they are willing to listen, you can get there
  • Does this work in other businesses that aren't in a good market like TransDigm?
    • Its math, sales-cost=profit how can I improve, sell more stuff, remove costs, or increase price
    • If your goal is to grow equity value, just need to sell more stuff and get the cost down
    • You can make the argument that if you can grow faster the multiple can increase
      • Tough road to take bc not fundamentally improving the business (putting aside capital structure issues)
  • Have you made any big mistakes?
    • As a general rule, I have never replaced anyone too soon, I have waited too long
    • If you lose confidence in somebody you will never recover it